am 31 years old male still vergine,but my mind disturb very much n i want to stop masturbation n have my mind in control.please help me.tel me what to do!.
You can recover if you stop masturbating. The best way I've found is to cover your penis with scotch tape while it's flaccid. Cover it from base to tip leaving the tip open to allow for urination. This will inhibit erections and make masturbating impossible. Just make sure you don't cut off any blood circulation during the flaccid state.
I've been overejaculating for many years, and because of it, I have a receding hairline, even though there's no hair loss genetically.
Now that I am practicing semen retention, is it possible for hair to regrow on the scalp? It certainly has a lot of other positive effects, why not hairline thickening?
BTW, I am 30 years old.
Please respond.
I can usually go for 3 or 4 days tops before I give in.
In that last day, I feel like my body is repairing itself from something. So I associate this chemical feeling with the "urge" to release the pressure in my tanks.
I actually notice alot of good things happening in my body. I can feel my digestion system working more, my muscles seem to ripple, more blood seems to pump into ever corner of the body.
When I do give in I look terrible. My eyes have glazed over and my complextion changes. My mood changes and tough fufilled, have lost my motivation.
So I would agree that not going "Atomic" with your pleasure is of benifit to your body's normal functions in general.
You can recover if you stop masturbating. The best way I've found is to cover your penis with scotch tape while it's flaccid. Cover it from base to tip leaving the tip open to allow for urination. This will inhibit erections and make masturbating impossible. Just make sure you don't cut off any blood circulation during the flaccid state.
something that could work is if you give in to the urge of maturbating, punish yourself with a whip or kneel down on some rocks with your hands under your knees.
Keep on wraping that penis in celophane like there's no tomorow.
It's obvious that semen is vital energy, the finest in the body. Only that could create a new body. But I'll tell you one thing, resistance is futile. It is like meditation. When most people go to meditate, they are doing nothing but straining themselves for an hour or however long they sit. Their goal is ultimately selfish.
Your goal in suppressing your desire to ejaculate is entirely selfish. You think that by doing so you'll grow and evolve, and you want that for yourself.
It is one thing to transcend the sex urge naturally, in due course. That happens to people, and not just balding pansies. You must move through it naturally until you don't want it anymore. If you fight against it you will never win, and if you don't fight it at all, you'll never grow up. Therefore each man must find his own path through this problem.
If you are on forums debating about it, telling people not to do it, or telling people to stop believing a bunch of nonsense and just do it, you're still in conflict about it, still moving through the whole question. No need to act like you've got it sorted. Even Buddha said the sex energy was the most difficult thing in the world to control.
You will probably stop screwing and jacking off when you naturally aren't inclined to do it, for whatever reason. Until then, don't fight. But be aware of how you use other people for selfish pleasure. Investigating that is the beginning of natural continence.
sooooooo? kiki tiki? i mean Nikhil? what you are saying si taht you don't WAHAAK you meat(-: you don't abuse the monkey(-: you aaah you don't? you don't sayy ahahhah! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa h! ! muaaaaaaaaaahh! and spill milk all ove ryour self while looking around bewildered hoping no one heard you!>?? - i think you r a bit on the fahked up side niki kiki? resistanc eis Futile?? hu? goal is self fish? masturbation damages the human body , as does sex, its a fact lok at your slef you weak inpotent fool! shaolin warrior monks don't wahk themselves they wahk slabs fo concrete blocks and steel , if a warrior wanst to see farther then teh average man he must herdd herd vasts amounts of energy!! hwo ? by practicing kinetic Ki!
Ronin44
I once went without masturbation for a good five months at age 19. No pornography either. Let me tell you - it changed me into something else.
These days when masturbating I just made sure not to ejaculate. I can please myself without ever letting go of my precious lifeblood. Orgasm after orgasm for hours on end - it's really great, mindblowing actually.
My penis has also gotten bigger and stronger since I started doing this and I feel so high all the time.
Cool .... Go -on and one day you will have a nice orgasmic stroke...... called the perfect shot because of the immense pressure created inside hereby !
Dear.......getting too closer to fire surely causes burns ! My honest advice to everyone::
"Better Maintain A Safe Distance, hence, Feel its Lovely Warmth & not Burns ..."
your points r noted Nikhil, but bear in mind that this forum is for habitual wankers....sex addiccts if u will. a dysfunctional sex drive.
abstinence is essential if they r 2 BREAK THE HABIT. or else these impressions will gain strength in the mind thereby making it even harder to quit.
habits r dificult things to break for people nikhil. it commend this site.
google vasanas:
Vasana: A bundle or aggregate of similar samskaras. Subtle desire; a tendency created in a person by the doing of an action or by enjoyment; it induces the person to repeat the action or to seek a repetition of the enjoyment; the subtle impression in the mind capable of developing itself into action; it is the cause of birth and experience in general; the impression of actions that remains unconsciously in the mind.
Thank you for your intelligent response, and your point also is taken. It is the old catch 22, putting forth effort for the effortless. I agree with Krishnamurti when he says it is impossible. But I suppose I am talking about meditative heights etc., where you have reminded me that this forum is a support for people to break a bad habit, plain and simple.
I'm afraid you haven't grasped the subtlety of what was said. But it seems you are not much for subtlety, or intelligent conversation, or the english language.
Why waste your energy? I submit, to your thick skull, that resistance is the only waste of energy in life. There is no waste of energy except resistance. This applies to everything, not just celibacy. Celibacy must be achieved effortlessly, not through negative resistance but through positive examination of how you use other beings for selfish pleasure. If you examine that all the way to the end, you will naturally become celibate. Instead you have drawn up a hair-brain scheme of resistance, which is why you behave and write comments like that. If you want to be part of a fad or craze, there are a million things you can do. If you want to examine sexuality like this, you have to examine it deeply.
People who strain themselves, like you, achieve nothing, gain nothing, grow in no way whatsoever. Why? Because you are not examining the root of the issue in order to gracefully transcend it. Instead you are resisting, which only makes the thing you are resisting stronger. Your mind is what got you into this mess, and you think that your mind and your willpower will get you out of it. Uh uh. Every one of us has to go through that whole game of resisting the sex energy, trying to subdue and dominate it. EVERY ONE OF US WILL FAIL. Because negative resistance will never overcome the sex energy. Positive examination, and that alone, will allow us to transcend it.
Can you grasp this? Because I'm not going to explain it again. But in any case, someone will benefit from it.
I think this man has some wisdom. I am buddhist, and have studied the mind over the last decade, and although I am far away from understanding it fully, this advise about resistance makes sense to me.
The more you open your mouth , the more you display
your stupidity. I AM A LITTLE ANGRY because you are guiding people in to hell. It is like the blind leading an other blind.You are so stupid that you donot try to have an open mind in order to grow. Any way , enjoy ignorance and die in your own way. Donot respond and waste any time..
The more you open your mouth , the more you display
your stupidity. I AM A LITTLE ANGRY because you are guiding people in to hell. It is like the blind leading an other blind.You are so stupid that you donot try to have an open mind in order to grow. Any way , enjoy ignorance and die in your own way. Donot respond and waste any time..
The more you open your mouth , the more you display
your stupidity. I AM A LITTLE ANGRY because you are guiding people in to hell. It is like the blind leading an other blind.You are so stupid that you donot try to have an open mind in order to grow. Any way , enjoy ignorance and die in your own way. Donot respond and waste any time..
The more you open your mouth , the more you display
your stupidity. I AM A LITTLE ANGRY because you are guiding people in to hell. It is like the blind leading an other blind.You are so stupid that you donot try to have an open mind in order to grow. Any way , enjoy ignorance and die in your own way. Donot respond and waste any time..
I dont think he is stupid. He certainly is not leading people to hell haha, that comment made me laugh to myself.
I have anger issues too, so I recognise these kind of outbursts. Feels great to hide behind a keyboard to let rip doesnt it. Tell people how crap they are.
Course, its self deception in reality, not that I judge, as I am full of faults too.
Be kind to yourself (dont mean in a conceited way), or you'll aways feel like harming others, and that stuff comes back round for sure :-)
contents in this site is very similar to traditional corean medicine. read dong ui bo gam. they tell the same thing. but, I have always had question regarding to women. women don't waste semen as much as men. someone said below, If we conserve semen, we are super human. then, are women already super human?lol
Hello,
I learned to retain semen and failed after so many tries, but finally i did it, i have retained my semen for almost 2 months already, and it is because of my constant practice of retention. This is what you can do.
1. Read about the Great Arcanum.
2. While in the shower, get soup and massage your penis like if you were to enlarge it, let it get a hard on, and immediately after that think is something else. Massage your testicles once a week while showering, press your testicles lightly.
3. Whenever you can masturbate, pull out a porn vid.
HERE STARTS THE PRACTICE:
Masturbate slowly, and do not concentrate so much on what excites you. keep masturbating. when you start feeling a little bit of sensation like when you think you are gonna reach your climax, stop completely, do not get too close to the feeling, breathe 3 times deeply through your nose, and get up. Go to the bathroom or take a walk. Forget about it.
When it goes down, try it again, masturbate and when you start feeling that you are getting excited stop.
You really have to have will, You have to say NO i am not gonna spill it. Because You will get to a point that it feels soo good that you will not care and will cum all over the place. but you have to be serious and stop it before you get close.
The good thing of practicing it, is that you won't feel the sensation of like wasted after spilling it out. but instead you want more and more.
Another exercise is to watch a porn vid, and go with the pace of the couple, if it goes in and out fast, you do it in that pace. You will notice, most porn videos are around 15 to 25 to 30 to 45 or to 60 minutes long, that's because the male actors do not have that practice to retain more,
The object is that if you go at the actors pace, you will try not to get that sensation for what the movie's lenght or until he spills out. You try to compete.
Another good thing about retention, is that spiritually your vibrations move to a higher level, and because of that it modifies your physical appearance, giving you more sex appeal, toned muscles, strength, vitality, concentration, enhances your brain and your senses, you become more intuitive, You feel more alert, more conscious. You think better, resolve problems faster. And best of all You attract people's attention unconsciously. You become more attractive for everybody, specially the opposite sex.
I have experienced that my chances of guessing something or knowing the intentions of some one have become greater. I call that tuition. I can tell who is gonna call me on the phone, or when the phone is gonna ring, it's something that has been developing over me, for only 2 months of retaining, i call that telephaty, I see the colors brighter, Everything is more detailed. That means your sight/vision enhances , your able to hear better and clearer.
I mean, the semen is what makes man a super human.
It was said that in Atlantis, the human race had around 8 senses, they could levitate, they could astral travel easily, they could see the aura, they were extremely intelligent.
But they started to fight within them, destroying all their advanced civilization including their defences against a known flood of thousand of years ago and they disappeared withing the flood.,
If you see the world right now, you will see that every day we are worst and worst, there now is public sex in japan and sex shows, sex this and that and spread like crazy.
Well back to the practice.
The point is to masturbate and every time try to get a little closer to the climax, and then with time when you start feeling that the juice is coming up the tube, stop and breathe as if you were going to dive underwater, close your legs and tighten your rectum, let go of the breath and loose the muscles, this time do not stand or the semen will get out.
JUST REMEMBER in every release, you are wasting 1 million spermatozoa, Imagine if you retain so many millions a day for 1 year. Well you body absorbs that liquid and nurtures you with power. If you have any questions feel free to reply.
yes i think you are on the right track, by retention we can develop that power in ourselves but how long should we do it ? should we follow the path of celebacy or what..?
You really got a lot of wisdom!. I too had experienced similar effects. I was not masturbating as i am since 2 years ago... This was due to the fact that i had faced heavy loss in finances. I am sure i suffered from PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) which lead me to masturbate so that the stress could relieve... and from once in a month or 2, the number of times elevated to a dozen times a month and over that sometimes. This caused ADD (Attention Deficit Disorder) in me as i couldn`t perform as good as i did in the early years. My memory got very poor and i was not able to think and design something, as it was essential for my university project. All this caused me to become shy and thus led me to SAD (Social Anxiety Disorder). Only about a few months ago, i have been able to prolong masturbation at times, like making it longer to ejaculate by going with the pace of porn actors...
I also believe that young people who look at other young people having sex, but feel that they cannot really do such things as some personal or religious or family values holding them back from having sex, are the victims of masturbation. This is true, as i am a virgin and i experience the same thoughts and ego... thoughts like " :( i wish i had a girlfriend and enjoyed sex as other guys of my age did ". The next is the media. In movies and almost everything today, there is something involving a union between male and female. It is indeed difficult to live as a form of life on earth and not think about sex. This is because of the fact that nature has designed and hard coded the function of sex and the motivation to do it, by introducing the element of pleasure as a reward.
So the logic is like this, as per mother nature...
When you start feeling the urge, you start masturbating (Nature thinks you are having sex).
While masturbating, you feel pleasure (Nature added pleasure to the process to encourage you to complete it, thinking you are actually involved in the act of procreation).
Finally, when you have ejaculated, nature gives you feeling of guilt and dryness as a lot of body fluid rushes into the restoration process. (Nature thinks it has taught you that sex is only meant for procreation and should not be repeated immediately).
Unfortunately, there is no way or feedback for the body to know that you have actually masturbated and not had sex, unless you consume your semen consciously, such that the bodily functions and parts and the memory that is in charge of the composition of semen is aware and able to recognize that what you have consumed is your own semen and hence the body becomes an open system with feedback. Only if the body is self-aware and knows what is happening inside and outside and how your mind is treating your body, can it take proper actions to at least, subliminally attempt to change your mind by excess or less hormone secretion.
I agree with what you say and i still have to really try and prolong masturbation for a very long time, experiencing short spells of orgasms without ejaculating at all. You are very much right and insightful!. Glad to see there are many people who share the same feelings!.
Hi, I am a 14 yeare old guy. I've been masturbating on and off since i was 12. There is a lot of evidence for why you should or shouldn't masturbate. I am havin trouble deciding if I should stop. Like, it feels great, but on the other hand I feel guilty about it. I'd like to stop, I've actually tried before, but it is really hard and I usually only go for 1-2 weeks. I am going to try some of the suggestions on stopping that just might work. Good luck on stopping and taking control of your mind.
Thinking ... feeling ... willing ... doing. That's how it goes.
It is very difficult to retain the semen when a man thinks about sex often. First the thought comes, and if one dwells upon it for even a moment, then the mind creates an expectation of mental enjoyment in relation to the object of one's fantasies. Desire naturally arises from this, which often cannot be fulfilled due to social and other considerations. During this process, which develops from the mental to the physical, the seminal components are being drawn from the body and stored in the testes. As the semen accumulates, it becomes increasingly difficult to retain, and will eventually cause severe discomfort (congestive prostatitis http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_195b.html). The mind will conjure fantasies just to release the semen, if need be.
If one wants to control one's sexual activities, it is most helpful to control one's thoughts. If a man is heterosexual, he should not think of women sexually. One must be vigilant over the mind, and when undesirable thoughts arise, they should not be entertained. Otherwise retaining the semen will be virtually impossible. The body acts in reaction to the mind. If the mind is controlled, the control of the body will follow. This may seem to take incredible willpower in the beginning, but day-by-day with practice it becomes easier. Quitting unnecessary seminal discharge is similar to quitting drugs. It may seem impossible at first, but it can be achieved with determination, and eventually it becomes so natural and good that one will wonder how he tolerated such a wretched life before.
Perhapes, a lot of medical conditions, eg.. anixety, homosexuality, parkinson's disease etc... can be explained by too much sex.
To stop u need to find something else to think about. It's stress that's the root cause of masturbation.
Also try wearing p-jays at bedtime, if it's too hot at least cover the penis.
Being a wanker is just ok I myself is an absolute one.:-)
It's a nature of man that cannot be resisted. But if it does really bugs you that much and affects your personal life then it needs to be stopped. It cannot be stopped but minimize rather.
My simple advice is to focus to something new that also feels you good as an equalizer to masturbation. I know this is hard to do it's just like someone who wants to stop smoking, it takes you one stick at a time.
Obviously not for destroying it by masterbation but
I have heard for somewhere that eating onions or chicken(if you are a non-vegitarian) will increase semen. Does anyone know about any herbs or some vegitatian items in day-to-day life that I can eat to increase the semen? I am a vegitarian.
Thaks for suggestions
A virgin at 31? You should be masturbating, just reduce it a bit.
Then go to a brothel and get laid for heaven's sake!
You'll soon feel a whole lot better.
As a virgin in the same situation I know that stopping is very difficult to do. However, it can be achieved by several methods. One: don't do activities connected with it, because chances are those are damaging in other ways too. Such activities include pornography and sexual dreams. If you have good mental control it is easier, but if not, actively avoiding it can work. I agree that keeping yourself busy with work is the best solution - my addiction to it came about because I had too much time on my hands at lunch and similar times. And if you can develop any friendships of yours into relationships, and from there to marriage, that might cure you. Avoid reading books or watching movies or television that are R-rated in terms of sexual content. Self-censor. This can seriously help you to stop. Telling someone you know and trust, like a parent or a religious leader can help you to stop. And if everything fails, go to a sexual sin-cleansing service for counseling.
You can give it up naturally and easily if you experience a higher taste. Personally I've found a combination of two things have helped me to give it up. The first one is changing my lifestyle to be actively involved in my local church a lot of the time (I'm a Hare Krishna, so it's called a temple) and having a personal spiritual practice (in my case praying, singing, studying and teaching scripture). In addition to taking up time, these things give satisfaction to the heart, and reduce lust. The second one is to get married, work a job to maintain to my family, and have children with my wife.
The combination of these two things did it for me. I would recommend getting involved with a temple or church, working hard there, finding a nice, compatible wife and getting married and then working hard to support your wife and kids. Once you do those things you won't have any energy or time to masturbate. :-) And you probably won't feel the need.
You get a little pleasure for the body, but it creates impressions in the mind which hurt your long term happiness. Plus that bodily pleasure is temporary and is not good for a healthy body or mind. Why throw out the most valuable part of your physiology for some temporary pleasure.
It's tough to stop because our body has become used to it. It is just a habit that has to be broken. If you go for a few days without it you will wonder how you could do it. It is kind of like an itch that you want to scratch, it won't really do anything for you, it will just bother you and it feeds on itself like a fire.
You should just remember with your intelligence that there is a reason for not doing it. So if you read the things on this site you will be intellectually convinced that it is not helping yourself, then it is more possible.
Plus you can stop doing this which increase your lusty feelings, that is a big category. Not eating meat helps. Meat is just an unnecessary negative influence on your mind and body.
Hope someone can handle that much good advice at one time.
STOP!!! Stop doing whatever you do to get masturbated. Cut everything that looks good to do it. For example: movies, reading, music, etc.. And then pray everytime you remember. It takes to make a decision first and then say NO all the time. Once you accept to do it it'll become an addiction. I will be praying a lot for you, but remember: you have to make a decision and FOLLOW IT. Let God guide you. With God there's nothing imposible.
Putting up the opinion of a lot of religiously bent scientists does not consitute fact.
Fact would be a test case involving the study of several... and I'm talking hundreds to thousands of cases where different controls were established with which to draw a solid conclusion.
All I see is a collection of religious opinions spread out over a couple thousand years.
Saying the same thing over and over again doesn't make it fact... it is more a tradition of lore or mythology.
If you want to pray instead of masturbate, more power to you. If you want to beat your dog or wife rather then masturbate... I'd say stop, but trying to tell myself and others that there is a scientific discourse on the harmful effects of masturbation and then list a bunch of quotes, not research, is a diservice to those that take it as fact.
Spiritualism... fine, but not science.
Metaphysics... fine, but not science.
The greeks also believe that having sex with a man was far healthier than having sex with their wife and would only do so for procreation.
I won't even get into the documented sexual habits of the civilization founding spartans.
Many of the people quoted here had their own foundations in faith for thier reasonings to lead to the conclusions.
All the people who seem to be agreeing with this psuedo-science also seem to be coming from a faith based initative.
One could also find information and opinion documentation to draw the exact opposite conclusion that masturbation and the release of sexual tension can lead to a longer and happier life. As well as to curb the abnormal sexual deviations that often come from people trying to repress their sexuality.
If I cared enough or had the time I would create my own psuedo science website. But I think I'll just masturbate or fornicate and go to bed happy and at peace. No God... No faith... No religion... Just release.
Fair enough, but are not all scientists religiously bent? Scientists are more religious than anyone. "Religio" means going back to the root. Scientists are concerned with finding the root explanations of existence. Their temples may be observatories and microscopes, their language something called "logic," but any modern scientist has already reached the conclusion that logic has limits, that quantum behavior cannot be explained by logic. Kurt Godel, the Austrian mathematician, proved using pure mathematics, pure science, that all logical systems are incomplete. All of the greatest scientists, not those trained to do a job, but the truly great, the truly genius - every one of them has implicated that in their greatest moments of realization, logic was nowhere to be found.
It's true that a study could be conducted saying that frequent ejaculation is healthy, and indeed, such as study is unnecessary since this is the common wisdom. Such a study would be easily supported by the modern medical institutions, and there would be no doubt that frequent ejaculation would be deemed healthy.
But if more men investigated their sexuality on a deeper level, fewer people would get hurt. Fewer women would get used, belittled, humiliated, raped. If every man on earth investigated his sexuality deeply, investigated the nature of desire and the urge to possess and be possessed, the entire world would change. There would be more light, genius, humility, empathy, compassion. There would be less licentiousness, wastefulness, stupidity and anger.
I'm not suggesting ejaculate or don't ejaculate, I'm only suggesting investigate.
Furthermore, does it help anybody to read all these desperate warnings "DON'T DO IT" etc? This doesn't help people to look at the problem, it just commands them to conform to something, and this is a recipe for disaster. What happens when you make a big red button and print a sign that says "DO NOT PUSH THIS BUTTON"? Rather, the sign might say "Pushing this button may have consequences. You must find out for yourself. Here is what people have said over thousands of years about pushing this button. Ultimately you must see the nature of the problem with your own eyes."
The only way to find "proof" is to experiment on yourself. Start masterbating every day for a few months and then SEE what happens to your body, your mind, your emotional states, your relationships, your finances and your luck in general. Then do the reverse. Give up all erotic experiences for a few months and then SEE what happens to those things just mentioned.
This investigation should be done scientifically. All experiences should be dated and documented for objective analysis.
masturbations DOES RUIN LIVES theres no need for a massive test its so fucking obvious because when u do it u loose energy and desire. and DESIRE is what makes u get a GIRL moron fuck what u wrote and ur opinion.
I do not know how to 'help yourself out of bed with another man', but I will disclose I think about masturbating an older man. I think I would be so turned on I would perform oral on him--maybe even let him penetrate me. I think about this transpiring while I am dressed up in a black leather miniskirt, leather top, and high heels.
Don't masturbate! You'll get hairy palms and go blind. Don't forget losing your "vitality" and desire to get girls! Because I'm typing with hairy palms right now. Stop before it's too late!
Stop masturbation
Control your hands.
How to stop masturbating
You can recover if you stop masturbating. The best way I've found is to cover your penis with scotch tape while it's flaccid. Cover it from base to tip leaving the tip open to allow for urination. This will inhibit erections and make masturbating impossible. Just make sure you don't cut off any blood circulation during the flaccid state.
Hair regrowth?
Hello all,
I've been overejaculating for many years, and because of it, I have a receding hairline, even though there's no hair loss genetically.
Now that I am practicing semen retention, is it possible for hair to regrow on the scalp? It certainly has a lot of other positive effects, why not hairline thickening?
BTW, I am 30 years old.
Please respond.
Matt
You probably feel low
You probably feel low emotionally after?
Read your bible & pray, ask god to help you overcome your addiction!
Climax
I can usually go for 3 or 4 days tops before I give in.
In that last day, I feel like my body is repairing itself from something. So I associate this chemical feeling with the "urge" to release the pressure in my tanks.
I actually notice alot of good things happening in my body. I can feel my digestion system working more, my muscles seem to ripple, more blood seems to pump into ever corner of the body.
When I do give in I look terrible. My eyes have glazed over and my complextion changes. My mood changes and tough fufilled, have lost my motivation.
So I would agree that not going "Atomic" with your pleasure is of benifit to your body's normal functions in general.
masturbation recovery
You can recover if you stop masturbating. The best way I've found is to cover your penis with scotch tape while it's flaccid. Cover it from base to tip leaving the tip open to allow for urination. This will inhibit erections and make masturbating impossible. Just make sure you don't cut off any blood circulation during the flaccid state.
feels hilarious
how can ny1 do that......hahahahaha
that was so funny ..
fuck man you did alot indeed to stop masturbating.
sorry, but that's just
sorry, but that's just hilarious. you actually do that?
cool
That sounds mid-ages to me.
something that could work is if you give in to the urge of maturbating, punish yourself with a whip or kneel down on some rocks with your hands under your knees.
Keep on wraping that penis in celophane like there's no tomorow.
Listen Up
Hello,
It's obvious that semen is vital energy, the finest in the body. Only that could create a new body. But I'll tell you one thing, resistance is futile. It is like meditation. When most people go to meditate, they are doing nothing but straining themselves for an hour or however long they sit. Their goal is ultimately selfish.
Your goal in suppressing your desire to ejaculate is entirely selfish. You think that by doing so you'll grow and evolve, and you want that for yourself.
It is one thing to transcend the sex urge naturally, in due course. That happens to people, and not just balding pansies. You must move through it naturally until you don't want it anymore. If you fight against it you will never win, and if you don't fight it at all, you'll never grow up. Therefore each man must find his own path through this problem.
If you are on forums debating about it, telling people not to do it, or telling people to stop believing a bunch of nonsense and just do it, you're still in conflict about it, still moving through the whole question. No need to act like you've got it sorted. Even Buddha said the sex energy was the most difficult thing in the world to control.
You will probably stop screwing and jacking off when you naturally aren't inclined to do it, for whatever reason. Until then, don't fight. But be aware of how you use other people for selfish pleasure. Investigating that is the beginning of natural continence.
Cheers,
Nikhil
masturbation
sooooooo? kiki tiki? i mean Nikhil? what you are saying si taht you don't WAHAAK you meat(-: you don't abuse the monkey(-: you aaah you don't? you don't sayy ahahhah! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa h! ! muaaaaaaaaaahh! and spill milk all ove ryour self while looking around bewildered hoping no one heard you!>?? - i think you r a bit on the fahked up side niki kiki? resistanc eis Futile?? hu? goal is self fish? masturbation damages the human body , as does sex, its a fact lok at your slef you weak inpotent fool! shaolin warrior monks don't wahk themselves they wahk slabs fo concrete blocks and steel , if a warrior wanst to see farther then teh average man he must herdd herd vasts amounts of energy!! hwo ? by practicing kinetic Ki!
Ronin44
Not ejaculating is very, very good for you
I once went without masturbation for a good five months at age 19. No pornography either. Let me tell you - it changed me into something else.
These days when masturbating I just made sure not to ejaculate. I can please myself without ever letting go of my precious lifeblood. Orgasm after orgasm for hours on end - it's really great, mindblowing actually.
My penis has also gotten bigger and stronger since I started doing this and I feel so high all the time.
playing with fire
Cool .... Go -on and one day you will have a nice orgasmic stroke...... called the perfect shot because of the immense pressure created inside hereby !
Dear.......getting too closer to fire surely causes burns ! My honest advice to everyone::
"Better Maintain A Safe Distance, hence, Feel its Lovely Warmth & not Burns ..."
cheers
asharma
"Excess of Anything is Bad"
sounds wild
could u give me more information on your methods of Orgasm without ejaculating... thank you. nickdeoliveira5@gmail.com
your points r noted Nikhil,
your points r noted Nikhil, but bear in mind that this forum is for habitual wankers....sex addiccts if u will. a dysfunctional sex drive.
abstinence is essential if they r 2 BREAK THE HABIT. or else these impressions will gain strength in the mind thereby making it even harder to quit.
habits r dificult things to break for people nikhil. it commend this site.
google vasanas:
Vasana: A bundle or aggregate of similar samskaras. Subtle desire; a tendency created in a person by the doing of an action or by enjoyment; it induces the person to repeat the action or to seek a repetition of the enjoyment; the subtle impression in the mind capable of developing itself into action; it is the cause of birth and experience in general; the impression of actions that remains unconsciously in the mind.
Thank you for your
Thank you for your intelligent response, and your point also is taken. It is the old catch 22, putting forth effort for the effortless. I agree with Krishnamurti when he says it is impossible. But I suppose I am talking about meditative heights etc., where you have reminded me that this forum is a support for people to break a bad habit, plain and simple.
YOU ARE A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF
YOU ARE A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHAT IS CALLED IGNORANCE IS A BLISS ! WHY NOT SHUT YOUR MOUTH IF
IF YOU DONOT KNOW ANYTHING . WHY YOU WASTE YOUR ENERGY ?
sigh
I'm afraid you haven't grasped the subtlety of what was said. But it seems you are not much for subtlety, or intelligent conversation, or the english language.
Why waste your energy? I submit, to your thick skull, that resistance is the only waste of energy in life. There is no waste of energy except resistance. This applies to everything, not just celibacy. Celibacy must be achieved effortlessly, not through negative resistance but through positive examination of how you use other beings for selfish pleasure. If you examine that all the way to the end, you will naturally become celibate. Instead you have drawn up a hair-brain scheme of resistance, which is why you behave and write comments like that. If you want to be part of a fad or craze, there are a million things you can do. If you want to examine sexuality like this, you have to examine it deeply.
People who strain themselves, like you, achieve nothing, gain nothing, grow in no way whatsoever. Why? Because you are not examining the root of the issue in order to gracefully transcend it. Instead you are resisting, which only makes the thing you are resisting stronger. Your mind is what got you into this mess, and you think that your mind and your willpower will get you out of it. Uh uh. Every one of us has to go through that whole game of resisting the sex energy, trying to subdue and dominate it. EVERY ONE OF US WILL FAIL. Because negative resistance will never overcome the sex energy. Positive examination, and that alone, will allow us to transcend it.
Can you grasp this? Because I'm not going to explain it again. But in any case, someone will benefit from it.
fantastic answer
I have benefited from it, certainly I did
Well said
I think this man has some wisdom. I am buddhist, and have studied the mind over the last decade, and although I am far away from understanding it fully, this advise about resistance makes sense to me.
So thanks very much
The more you open your mouth
The more you open your mouth , the more you display
your stupidity. I AM A LITTLE ANGRY because you are guiding people in to hell. It is like the blind leading an other blind.You are so stupid that you donot try to have an open mind in order to grow. Any way , enjoy ignorance and die in your own way. Donot respond and waste any time..
The more you open your mouth
The more you open your mouth , the more you display
your stupidity. I AM A LITTLE ANGRY because you are guiding people in to hell. It is like the blind leading an other blind.You are so stupid that you donot try to have an open mind in order to grow. Any way , enjoy ignorance and die in your own way. Donot respond and waste any time..
The more you open your mouth
The more you open your mouth , the more you display
your stupidity. I AM A LITTLE ANGRY because you are guiding people in to hell. It is like the blind leading an other blind.You are so stupid that you donot try to have an open mind in order to grow. Any way , enjoy ignorance and die in your own way. Donot respond and waste any time..
The more you open your mouth
The more you open your mouth , the more you display
your stupidity. I AM A LITTLE ANGRY because you are guiding people in to hell. It is like the blind leading an other blind.You are so stupid that you donot try to have an open mind in order to grow. Any way , enjoy ignorance and die in your own way. Donot respond and waste any time..
Anger
I dont think he is stupid. He certainly is not leading people to hell haha, that comment made me laugh to myself.
I have anger issues too, so I recognise these kind of outbursts. Feels great to hide behind a keyboard to let rip doesnt it. Tell people how crap they are.
Course, its self deception in reality, not that I judge, as I am full of faults too.
Be kind to yourself (dont mean in a conceited way), or you'll aways feel like harming others, and that stuff comes back round for sure :-)
what about women???
contents in this site is very similar to traditional corean medicine. read dong ui bo gam. they tell the same thing. but, I have always had question regarding to women. women don't waste semen as much as men. someone said below, If we conserve semen, we are super human. then, are women already super human?lol
Semen Retention Practice
Hello,
I learned to retain semen and failed after so many tries, but finally i did it, i have retained my semen for almost 2 months already, and it is because of my constant practice of retention. This is what you can do.
1. Read about the Great Arcanum.
2. While in the shower, get soup and massage your penis like if you were to enlarge it, let it get a hard on, and immediately after that think is something else. Massage your testicles once a week while showering, press your testicles lightly.
3. Whenever you can masturbate, pull out a porn vid.
HERE STARTS THE PRACTICE:
Masturbate slowly, and do not concentrate so much on what excites you. keep masturbating. when you start feeling a little bit of sensation like when you think you are gonna reach your climax, stop completely, do not get too close to the feeling, breathe 3 times deeply through your nose, and get up. Go to the bathroom or take a walk. Forget about it.
When it goes down, try it again, masturbate and when you start feeling that you are getting excited stop.
You really have to have will, You have to say NO i am not gonna spill it. Because You will get to a point that it feels soo good that you will not care and will cum all over the place. but you have to be serious and stop it before you get close.
The good thing of practicing it, is that you won't feel the sensation of like wasted after spilling it out. but instead you want more and more.
Another exercise is to watch a porn vid, and go with the pace of the couple, if it goes in and out fast, you do it in that pace. You will notice, most porn videos are around 15 to 25 to 30 to 45 or to 60 minutes long, that's because the male actors do not have that practice to retain more,
The object is that if you go at the actors pace, you will try not to get that sensation for what the movie's lenght or until he spills out. You try to compete.
Another good thing about retention, is that spiritually your vibrations move to a higher level, and because of that it modifies your physical appearance, giving you more sex appeal, toned muscles, strength, vitality, concentration, enhances your brain and your senses, you become more intuitive, You feel more alert, more conscious. You think better, resolve problems faster. And best of all You attract people's attention unconsciously. You become more attractive for everybody, specially the opposite sex.
I have experienced that my chances of guessing something or knowing the intentions of some one have become greater. I call that tuition. I can tell who is gonna call me on the phone, or when the phone is gonna ring, it's something that has been developing over me, for only 2 months of retaining, i call that telephaty, I see the colors brighter, Everything is more detailed. That means your sight/vision enhances , your able to hear better and clearer.
I mean, the semen is what makes man a super human.
It was said that in Atlantis, the human race had around 8 senses, they could levitate, they could astral travel easily, they could see the aura, they were extremely intelligent.
But they started to fight within them, destroying all their advanced civilization including their defences against a known flood of thousand of years ago and they disappeared withing the flood.,
If you see the world right now, you will see that every day we are worst and worst, there now is public sex in japan and sex shows, sex this and that and spread like crazy.
Well back to the practice.
The point is to masturbate and every time try to get a little closer to the climax, and then with time when you start feeling that the juice is coming up the tube, stop and breathe as if you were going to dive underwater, close your legs and tighten your rectum, let go of the breath and loose the muscles, this time do not stand or the semen will get out.
JUST REMEMBER in every release, you are wasting 1 million spermatozoa, Imagine if you retain so many millions a day for 1 year. Well you body absorbs that liquid and nurtures you with power. If you have any questions feel free to reply.
positive response
yes i think you are on the right track, by retention we can develop that power in ourselves but how long should we do it ? should we follow the path of celebacy or what..?
Cool!
You really got a lot of wisdom!. I too had experienced similar effects. I was not masturbating as i am since 2 years ago... This was due to the fact that i had faced heavy loss in finances. I am sure i suffered from PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) which lead me to masturbate so that the stress could relieve... and from once in a month or 2, the number of times elevated to a dozen times a month and over that sometimes. This caused ADD (Attention Deficit Disorder) in me as i couldn`t perform as good as i did in the early years. My memory got very poor and i was not able to think and design something, as it was essential for my university project. All this caused me to become shy and thus led me to SAD (Social Anxiety Disorder). Only about a few months ago, i have been able to prolong masturbation at times, like making it longer to ejaculate by going with the pace of porn actors...
I also believe that young people who look at other young people having sex, but feel that they cannot really do such things as some personal or religious or family values holding them back from having sex, are the victims of masturbation. This is true, as i am a virgin and i experience the same thoughts and ego... thoughts like " :( i wish i had a girlfriend and enjoyed sex as other guys of my age did ". The next is the media. In movies and almost everything today, there is something involving a union between male and female. It is indeed difficult to live as a form of life on earth and not think about sex. This is because of the fact that nature has designed and hard coded the function of sex and the motivation to do it, by introducing the element of pleasure as a reward.
So the logic is like this, as per mother nature...
When you start feeling the urge, you start masturbating (Nature thinks you are having sex).
While masturbating, you feel pleasure (Nature added pleasure to the process to encourage you to complete it, thinking you are actually involved in the act of procreation).
Finally, when you have ejaculated, nature gives you feeling of guilt and dryness as a lot of body fluid rushes into the restoration process. (Nature thinks it has taught you that sex is only meant for procreation and should not be repeated immediately).
Unfortunately, there is no way or feedback for the body to know that you have actually masturbated and not had sex, unless you consume your semen consciously, such that the bodily functions and parts and the memory that is in charge of the composition of semen is aware and able to recognize that what you have consumed is your own semen and hence the body becomes an open system with feedback. Only if the body is self-aware and knows what is happening inside and outside and how your mind is treating your body, can it take proper actions to at least, subliminally attempt to change your mind by excess or less hormone secretion.
I agree with what you say and i still have to really try and prolong masturbation for a very long time, experiencing short spells of orgasms without ejaculating at all. You are very much right and insightful!. Glad to see there are many people who share the same feelings!.
cheers!.
Masturbating...
Hi, I am a 14 yeare old guy. I've been masturbating on and off since i was 12. There is a lot of evidence for why you should or shouldn't masturbate. I am havin trouble deciding if I should stop. Like, it feels great, but on the other hand I feel guilty about it. I'd like to stop, I've actually tried before, but it is really hard and I usually only go for 1-2 weeks. I am going to try some of the suggestions on stopping that just might work. Good luck on stopping and taking control of your mind.
thinking, feeling, willing, doing
Thinking ... feeling ... willing ... doing. That's how it goes.
It is very difficult to retain the semen when a man thinks about sex often. First the thought comes, and if one dwells upon it for even a moment, then the mind creates an expectation of mental enjoyment in relation to the object of one's fantasies. Desire naturally arises from this, which often cannot be fulfilled due to social and other considerations. During this process, which develops from the mental to the physical, the seminal components are being drawn from the body and stored in the testes. As the semen accumulates, it becomes increasingly difficult to retain, and will eventually cause severe discomfort (congestive prostatitis http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_195b.html). The mind will conjure fantasies just to release the semen, if need be.
If one wants to control one's sexual activities, it is most helpful to control one's thoughts. If a man is heterosexual, he should not think of women sexually. One must be vigilant over the mind, and when undesirable thoughts arise, they should not be entertained. Otherwise retaining the semen will be virtually impossible. The body acts in reaction to the mind. If the mind is controlled, the control of the body will follow. This may seem to take incredible willpower in the beginning, but day-by-day with practice it becomes easier. Quitting unnecessary seminal discharge is similar to quitting drugs. It may seem impossible at first, but it can be achieved with determination, and eventually it becomes so natural and good that one will wonder how he tolerated such a wretched life before.
Perhapes, a lot of medical
Perhapes, a lot of medical conditions, eg.. anixety, homosexuality, parkinson's disease etc... can be explained by too much sex.
To stop u need to find something else to think about. It's stress that's the root cause of masturbation.
Also try wearing p-jays at bedtime, if it's too hot at least cover the penis.
It's ok
Being a wanker is just ok I myself is an absolute one.:-)
It's a nature of man that cannot be resisted. But if it does really bugs you that much and affects your personal life then it needs to be stopped. It cannot be stopped but minimize rather.
My simple advice is to focus to something new that also feels you good as an equalizer to masturbation. I know this is hard to do it's just like someone who wants to stop smoking, it takes you one stick at a time.
-Jan
Self-Improvement Advice
masturbation recovery
can we recover the same body fitness and lost body after stopping masturbation.
masturbation recovery
can we recover the same body fitness and lost body after stopping masturbation.
what to eat to increase your semen or veerya?
Obviously not for destroying it by masterbation but
I have heard for somewhere that eating onions or chicken(if you are a non-vegitarian) will increase semen. Does anyone know about any herbs or some vegitatian items in day-to-day life that I can eat to increase the semen? I am a vegitarian.
Thaks for suggestions
Get laid!
A virgin at 31? You should be masturbating, just reduce it a bit.
Then go to a brothel and get laid for heaven's sake!
You'll soon feel a whole lot better.
It's very hard, but possible.
As a virgin in the same situation I know that stopping is very difficult to do. However, it can be achieved by several methods. One: don't do activities connected with it, because chances are those are damaging in other ways too. Such activities include pornography and sexual dreams. If you have good mental control it is easier, but if not, actively avoiding it can work. I agree that keeping yourself busy with work is the best solution - my addiction to it came about because I had too much time on my hands at lunch and similar times. And if you can develop any friendships of yours into relationships, and from there to marriage, that might cure you. Avoid reading books or watching movies or television that are R-rated in terms of sexual content. Self-censor. This can seriously help you to stop. Telling someone you know and trust, like a parent or a religious leader can help you to stop. And if everything fails, go to a sexual sin-cleansing service for counseling.
Find something better
You can give it up naturally and easily if you experience a higher taste. Personally I've found a combination of two things have helped me to give it up. The first one is changing my lifestyle to be actively involved in my local church a lot of the time (I'm a Hare Krishna, so it's called a temple) and having a personal spiritual practice (in my case praying, singing, studying and teaching scripture). In addition to taking up time, these things give satisfaction to the heart, and reduce lust. The second one is to get married, work a job to maintain to my family, and have children with my wife.
The combination of these two things did it for me. I would recommend getting involved with a temple or church, working hard there, finding a nice, compatible wife and getting married and then working hard to support your wife and kids. Once you do those things you won't have any energy or time to masturbate. :-) And you probably won't feel the need.
its good
dont worry... masturbation is good...
especially if ur a virgin..
its the nicest thing u will experience
little pleasure, lot of problems
You get a little pleasure for the body, but it creates impressions in the mind which hurt your long term happiness. Plus that bodily pleasure is temporary and is not good for a healthy body or mind. Why throw out the most valuable part of your physiology for some temporary pleasure.
it's tough
It's tough to stop because our body has become used to it. It is just a habit that has to be broken. If you go for a few days without it you will wonder how you could do it. It is kind of like an itch that you want to scratch, it won't really do anything for you, it will just bother you and it feeds on itself like a fire.
You should just remember with your intelligence that there is a reason for not doing it. So if you read the things on this site you will be intellectually convinced that it is not helping yourself, then it is more possible.
Plus you can stop doing this which increase your lusty feelings, that is a big category. Not eating meat helps. Meat is just an unnecessary negative influence on your mind and body.
Hope someone can handle that much good advice at one time.
you can do it
STOP!!! Stop doing whatever you do to get masturbated. Cut everything that looks good to do it. For example: movies, reading, music, etc.. And then pray everytime you remember. It takes to make a decision first and then say NO all the time. Once you accept to do it it'll become an addiction. I will be praying a lot for you, but remember: you have to make a decision and FOLLOW IT. Let God guide you. With God there's nothing imposible.
Your friend,
alkfj
Cleverly hidden religious propoganda
Putting up the opinion of a lot of religiously bent scientists does not consitute fact.
Fact would be a test case involving the study of several... and I'm talking hundreds to thousands of cases where different controls were established with which to draw a solid conclusion.
All I see is a collection of religious opinions spread out over a couple thousand years.
Saying the same thing over and over again doesn't make it fact... it is more a tradition of lore or mythology.
If you want to pray instead of masturbate, more power to you. If you want to beat your dog or wife rather then masturbate... I'd say stop, but trying to tell myself and others that there is a scientific discourse on the harmful effects of masturbation and then list a bunch of quotes, not research, is a diservice to those that take it as fact.
Spiritualism... fine, but not science.
Metaphysics... fine, but not science.
The greeks also believe that having sex with a man was far healthier than having sex with their wife and would only do so for procreation.
I won't even get into the documented sexual habits of the civilization founding spartans.
Many of the people quoted here had their own foundations in faith for thier reasonings to lead to the conclusions.
All the people who seem to be agreeing with this psuedo-science also seem to be coming from a faith based initative.
One could also find information and opinion documentation to draw the exact opposite conclusion that masturbation and the release of sexual tension can lead to a longer and happier life. As well as to curb the abnormal sexual deviations that often come from people trying to repress their sexuality.
If I cared enough or had the time I would create my own psuedo science website. But I think I'll just masturbate or fornicate and go to bed happy and at peace. No God... No faith... No religion... Just release.
Fair enough, but are not all
Fair enough, but are not all scientists religiously bent? Scientists are more religious than anyone. "Religio" means going back to the root. Scientists are concerned with finding the root explanations of existence. Their temples may be observatories and microscopes, their language something called "logic," but any modern scientist has already reached the conclusion that logic has limits, that quantum behavior cannot be explained by logic. Kurt Godel, the Austrian mathematician, proved using pure mathematics, pure science, that all logical systems are incomplete. All of the greatest scientists, not those trained to do a job, but the truly great, the truly genius - every one of them has implicated that in their greatest moments of realization, logic was nowhere to be found.
It's true that a study could be conducted saying that frequent ejaculation is healthy, and indeed, such as study is unnecessary since this is the common wisdom. Such a study would be easily supported by the modern medical institutions, and there would be no doubt that frequent ejaculation would be deemed healthy.
But if more men investigated their sexuality on a deeper level, fewer people would get hurt. Fewer women would get used, belittled, humiliated, raped. If every man on earth investigated his sexuality deeply, investigated the nature of desire and the urge to possess and be possessed, the entire world would change. There would be more light, genius, humility, empathy, compassion. There would be less licentiousness, wastefulness, stupidity and anger.
I'm not suggesting ejaculate or don't ejaculate, I'm only suggesting investigate.
Furthermore, does it help anybody to read all these desperate warnings "DON'T DO IT" etc? This doesn't help people to look at the problem, it just commands them to conform to something, and this is a recipe for disaster. What happens when you make a big red button and print a sign that says "DO NOT PUSH THIS BUTTON"? Rather, the sign might say "Pushing this button may have consequences. You must find out for yourself. Here is what people have said over thousands of years about pushing this button. Ultimately you must see the nature of the problem with your own eyes."
Proof - J. Anthony
The only way to find "proof" is to experiment on yourself. Start masterbating every day for a few months and then SEE what happens to your body, your mind, your emotional states, your relationships, your finances and your luck in general. Then do the reverse. Give up all erotic experiences for a few months and then SEE what happens to those things just mentioned.
This investigation should be done scientifically. All experiences should be dated and documented for objective analysis.
Fuck u stupid asshole
masturbations DOES RUIN LIVES theres no need for a massive test its so fucking obvious because when u do it u loose energy and desire. and DESIRE is what makes u get a GIRL moron fuck what u wrote and ur opinion.
HOMOSEXUAL
HOW CAN ONE WHO IS AN MANLOVER HELPS HIMSELF OUT OF BED WITH ANOTHER MAN. HE DON'T LIKE THE LIFESTYLE AND DESIRE TO CHANGE BUT FINDDS IT HARD.
hmmm
I do not know how to 'help yourself out of bed with another man', but I will disclose I think about masturbating an older man. I think I would be so turned on I would perform oral on him--maybe even let him penetrate me. I think about this transpiring while I am dressed up in a black leather miniskirt, leather top, and high heels.
Don't masturbate! You'll get
Don't masturbate! You'll get hairy palms and go blind. Don't forget losing your "vitality" and desire to get girls! Because I'm typing with hairy palms right now. Stop before it's too late!